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Early Eastern influences on Western painting?????
[edit]I am very confused about the second paragraph from the top of the page. It has a good premise, that both West and East influenced each other, but I am not so sure about the statement claiming that Europe learned from Africa, Japan, China, Islam etc... before any of those learned from Europe. When, for instance, in early history, did Japan or China ever influence Western paintings? Islam did, perhaps, but the reverse is equally true during that time. The only civilization of the East that I would say influenced Europe in painting before Europe influenced the East, would be, perhaps, Ancient Egypt. Wikipedia gets a little carried away with belittling Europe and inflating the greatness of everyone else at times.Pierceunique (talk) 04:24, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
3 Western painting 3.1 Egypt, Greece and Rome
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3 Western painting
3.1 Egypt, Greece and Rome
It's Western??--Albedo @ 16:11, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
Destroying hard work
[edit]- You destroyed some of my hard work as well as the hard work of others on this page...Modernist (talk) 02:05, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
It decidedly does not work in two ways. You gave no argument. My argument is the strongest possible: common consensus visible in the page view statistics. I spent whole summer in comparing them. Propositum (talk) 01:53, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
- Excuse me? First of all - I work hard here too, lets be clear. Anyone who doesn't understand the importance of Albert Pinkham Ryder to the history of painting and to contemporary painting - the artist who Jackson Pollock said was America's most important painter clearly does not know this subject. I've made more than 1000 edits to this page - and I have studied this subject for more than 50 years. Before you make any more changes discuss them first, and get consensus first, before removing any more images...Modernist (talk) 02:03, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
- More not always means better. It is crucial, especially in an encyclopedia, to distinguish the most important things from secondary ones. And since I am a specialist in early modern culture working at the university, believe me (if you do not believe the communities of writers and readers) that for example Murillo (who used to be more popular than Velazquez) is more relevant than Hooch (it was not only Dutch, but also Spanish golden age, and the latter country was bigger). Propositum (talk) 00:26, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Careful, considered and accurate changes are welcome; wholesale removals are not. As I said above artists like Homer, Copley, Ryder are relevant; if you make changes discuss first...Modernist (talk) 11:03, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Read: WP:NPOV and WP:CONSENSUS before asserting your opinion about what is important and what is secondary, you may find that other scholars disagree. I don't disagree with you regarding Murillo by the way...Modernist (talk) 12:11, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Careful, considered and accurate changes are welcome; wholesale removals are not. As I said above artists like Homer, Copley, Ryder are relevant; if you make changes discuss first...Modernist (talk) 11:03, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- More not always means better. It is crucial, especially in an encyclopedia, to distinguish the most important things from secondary ones. And since I am a specialist in early modern culture working at the university, believe me (if you do not believe the communities of writers and readers) that for example Murillo (who used to be more popular than Velazquez) is more relevant than Hooch (it was not only Dutch, but also Spanish golden age, and the latter country was bigger). Propositum (talk) 00:26, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Stop reverting my contributions to the article. You're not the only person who gets to decide what's written in the article. Max Eisenhardt (talk) 20:38, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
- Neither are you and consensus is against your inclusions...Modernist (talk) 20:51, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
- That's true, but I'm not deleting information I'm adding it. And where is the consensus? I don't see any discussion about this issue. I don't consider it my job to raise it. Max Eisenhardt (talk) 20:55, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
Too many images
[edit]Sounds like a good idea to delete some images? At least 20-30% of them, anybody? Danial Bass (talk) 18:01, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
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