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Should the terrorism list include ones where the perpetrator only referenced the "Day of the Rope?"

Bruce Hoffman links the book to a few attacks where the perpetrator referenced the idea [1] but the term has diffused so I am unsure in lieu of a more specific tie. PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:02, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you're asking. Is this a categorization question? Or listing attacks on this article (rather than the linking to this article from pages about the attack)? ButlerBlog (talk) 11:42, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Butlerblog The list on this article. PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:48, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My issue is, some sources do explicitly connect them saying that to the book, but it feels different to put that as well with people who we have proof actually read the book. PARAKANYAA (talk) 14:06, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ahhh, that helps clarify; thanks. I tend to be of the mindset that lists risk being a dumping ground for all manner of events, regardless of how deeply (or not deeply) connected it is. It's much better to have a section of prose that describes significant events that have a direct connection and why. So, I'm not actually a fan of the list we already have as it stands. Adding marginally connected events that are connected to the Day of the Rope as an idea are not, IMO, all that statistically significant if they are not directly connected to the book as a whole. ButlerBlog (talk) 22:07, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Butlerblog See, I disagree with you in this case because the amount of terror attacks it inspired is the main reason it is notable. A prose section would be a list in disguise unless we only included McVeigh and cut all the other attacks, because every other incident is just that, an isolated incident that doesn’t flow into each other. I also think a list is due weight because Berger includes a very comprehensive list.

Wrt the “Day of the Rope”, I would agree with you, but my concern is that Hoffman does directly say two terrorists were inspired by the book, but only used as evidence that they used the phrase - so is it arbitrary to not include? Eh. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:41, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]